Everyday Eve

The Slaughterhouse.

So I am flying around Patur trying to build some cash reserves and I notice in corporation chat a conversation by some pod pilots. Here is an excerpt of the conversation:

Thalatos Ronuken > are cruisers better for missions than destroyers (I have a thrasher at the moment), or are they too ungainly?
Kova Arbosa > I think destroyers are horribly bad for missions
nightman 27 > cruisers are better
Thalatos Ronuken > why?
Kova Arbosa > they lack tank and cap . so yes a cruiser beats a destroyer hands down because a good mission ship only needs tank and firepower , and best without running out of cap
Thalatos Ronuken > new to game still… by tank you mean shield/armor?
Kova Arbosa > you dont need speed or ewar etc. Anything that keeps you from getting blown up 😉
Virginee > ah god, have to train alot to play minitar effectively…. missles, projectiles, shield, armor
Kova Arbosa > yes minmatar is a pain to train for, well you can just stick with a cane for a while, then you can focus on guns and armor, or shield if you want
Thalatos Ronuken > cane?
Kova Arbosa > Then after the cane go for a tempest which is guns and armor or shield too. Then once you got these well trained work on issles and such for the typhoon
Thalatos Ronuken > lol only cruiser 1 so far
Kova Arbosa > but its not so important to get missles
Kova Arbosa > after 5 years my missle skills are still mediocre
Thalatos Ronuken > and only about 20 million isk short, think ill go with a bellicose
Kova Arbosa > really for pvp you go shield or armor plus projectiles
Thalatos Ronuken > more in the price range
Thalatos Ronuken > maybe ill stick with the thrasher for a few more days and get cruiser 3 trained up
Kova Arbosa > I would go for the rifter. I used my rifter to run lvl 2 missions, you can have a neat passive shield tank on it.
Thalatos Ronuken > like the firepower of the thrasher more… 3 missile, 3 railgun, 3 cannon, and a salvager
Kova Arbosa > railguns? Boy thats the worst setup ever, but thrashers go boom really easily
Thalatos Ronuken > havent lost this one yet…
Kova Arbosa > dont mix guns, you can have many guns and in the remaining slots a few missles. But not 3 different kinds of guns.
Kova Arbosa > furst things first though, throw away the rails and put on artillery. The thrasher gives bonueses to projectiles I believe.
Virginee > Just use all projectiles. Destroyers can pump out some descent dps on frigs now.
Kova Arbosa > Yeah destroyers were always good against frigs
Thalatos Ronuken > Cannon range is inside 5km, I usually kill crap before it gets to that
Kova Arbosa > Link your fitting. Ughh , yes that is a horrible fit 😛
Thalatos Ronuken > Laughs out loud.
Kova Arbosa > Okay we start off with the guns. On Minmatar ships you fit projectiles, and you fit 1 kind of weapons. Not 3 autocannons and then 3 artilleries because you will suck at dps on any range,
Thalatos Ronuken > So autocannons = projectiles?
Kova Arbosa > Also drop that missile launcehr, you have 7 gun slots. Hang onThalatos Ronuken > and only about 20 million isk short, think ill go with a bellicose. Anyway, with autocannons vs artillery. artillery has longer range, but autocannons has better DPS , gotta chose what you want. The lowest range ammot hits the hardest. Look at the optimal range modifier in the ammos attributes. Now tanking never tank armour and shield at the same time because the slots that are not used for tanking can be used for e.g. more damage , or more cap.

Thalatos Ronuken > i only use armor regen between fights… use shield boost while fighting

Kova Arbosa > and tahts what is wrong

Thalatos Ronuken > oh ok, so only slot one?
Kova Arbosa > Doesnt matter if you go shield or armor.
Virginee > It depends on the ship whether u armor or shield tank.
Kova Arbosa > If you had a good setup , neitehr of the tanks would break.
Acute Delirium > You made same mistake with tank as you did with weapons, mixing types
Kova Arbosa > See like this. It has shield tank, and the low slots are used …. to increase the shield tank and the rigs too and I don’t think theres any risk that the tank breaks in any mission. Ok, so besides the afterburner, everything you have slotted is either for shields or dps. Speed is always good too for small ships, since they dont get hit so often. You could swap one of the lowslots for a gyrostabilizer reduce tank but increase dps and that is what I think is the biggest problem of destroyers, their tank and cap suck. So you cant reliably tank a mission and might have to run away.
Thalatos Ronuken > Thanks alot, tons to think about now; I appreciate the help.

I was so impressed by this and also noticed I had the wrong guns on my ship!!  So I have gone off and bought some artillery.  I am also looking at ‘Slaughterhouses’ stup and decided to go and fetch some new low slot items.  The tank of the current ship is still not right so I want to see if I can improve this aspect of my setup.  After all I have 3 low slots and they are not being used!!

Not all pod pilots are quite as helpful however.  I saw the following conversation as I was flying around:

EVE System > Channel changed to Local : Hadaugago
Reiken Oskold > I need Isk can anybody help me out
Gwawl > Here for less than a day and already begging for money
Reiken Oskold > well how do you make isk fast.
Gwawl > At your level missions and mining, no quick way here.
Jasyn Calontyre > Why do you need it fast.
Reiken Oskold > Or how to make ISK even the tutorials are only giving me like 500 isk and everything seems to be more ISK than I can afford because I want a better ship.
Kao Lor > Just a greedy pig. Pay him no attention.
Jasyn Calontyre > Do all the tutorials, you will get a better ship.
Reiken Oskold > ok
Gwawl > Do missions and you will get a better ship.

So sometime you can get short shrift from these pod pilots….